Posts by THE GLADIATOR

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Science TV Show - AGuest and bohm please jump in

by EntirelyPossible in

i started this thread to get a fresh start.

i know, there is another thread, but it was all over the place.

to that end, i would am going to paste a quote of shelby's from the other thread and try to stick to hashing that out.

THE GLADIATOR

Science seeks to discover how the universe works including our world. It does this by applying scientific method and accepts that there is no end to discovery.

Most religions do not seek to come to conclusions but have already arrived at a forgone conclusion based on an ancient holy book accepted by their sect or personal revelation. Belief does not require work of any kind.

Scientists are required to put in years of hard work and be prepared to accept that they may never arrive at an absolute position. They are not promised life after death and do not worship as a requirement.

To me science and religion are two entirely different mindsets. The only thing they have in common is that they both require people to be involved and that's where the confusion lies.

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Curiosity/ Create the universe Stephen Hawking

by jam in

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if you have not seen it, it,s on the discovery station.

tonite, 8:00 pm west coast, two parts..

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bohm Having just read through this thread in it’s entirety , I feel compelled to comment on your performance. From your reluctance to get involved at the beginning, it seems that had you not been called upon to defend yourself, we would not have benefited from your years of study and learning. For that I am grateful to AGuest.

I have been impressed by your restraint, politeness and patience throughout this debate. Your detailed explanations of virtual particles & quantum mechanics has been most enlightening and educational.

I have avoided commenting before for two reasons. Firstly I didn't want to get involved in the fireworks. Secondly I have learnt that it’s better to remain silent than demonstrate on a public forum that that I know absolutely nothing about a subject being debated.

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I need to buy a new microwave

by Iamallcool in

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i need to buy a new microwave, what brands do you recommend that i consider to buy?

i like stainless steel.

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THE GLADIATOR

Iamallcool Perhaps you need to broaden your horizons.

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What Happened To Rick Fearon And Six Screens?

by minimus in

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i haven't seen him here in a while..

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I remember Rick got a pasting on this site not long ago.

I felt quite sorry for him. It appeared that he had rubbbed some people up the wrong way.

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I'm speed reading through revelation right now...

by cptkirk in

waiting on a couple important phone calls, so figured may as well make some use of this time.

i'm going to try and catalogue every error in this book, hopefully can be done before the end of the day.

i'm sure a lot of folks have already disected this and nothing new to see.

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Try reading Revalation backwards.

It still won't make any sense but it will bring you to another 65 'books' that that by comparison almost make sense.

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Religion/Mental Illness/Schizoprenia

by ranmac in

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i have a very close friend whos history of traumatic experiences and drug use has culminated into very severe mental and physical detioratation.

i dont want to get into personal information but one major symptom is that he has become religiously deluded about himself.

to be blunt, he believes he is a special prophet chosen by jehovah.

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OnTheWayOut "If you don't see or believe the things they see or believe, don't lead them to believe that you do."

This is good advice. Over the years I have known a number of people believing themselves to be a vehicle for either gods or demons. Politely pretending to share or even accept their delusion is neither kind, considerate or helpful.

If I come accross as having strong feelings against encouraging people suffering from this type of delusion there is a reason. To my great cost, my mother was one such person.

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New Statesman: famous atheists explain why they don't believe in God...what is Hawking saying?

by unshackled in

http://www.newstatesman.com/religion/2011/07/god-evidence-believe-world.

found this new statesman article linked in a sam harris tweet.

it is a collection of comments on reasons for non-belief from such ones as richard dawkins, daniel dennett, sam harris, jerry coyne and stephen hawking...to name a few.. what caught my eye about the tweet was this comment by harris, his actual tweet:.

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Most atheists would say that there may be a god or gods. It's just that they have not found sufficient evidence to support such a belief at the present time. Until they do they will continue with their short life and take the cash in hand.

Personally, I rule nothing in and nothing out - I just shake it all about!

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first contradiction in the bible?

by cptkirk in

contradiction without the use of an outside medium (such as archaeology, fossil study).

i just stumbled on this after reading the thread about adam and the sexual subliminal message.

i was thinking about adam and eve and chronology, and a contradiction popped up in my head...so i picked up the bible and there it is.. gen 1:27 - god creates adam and eve, tells them to be fruitful.. gen 2:18 - now adam is alone?

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This is very perceptive of you Terry. On my computer I have a collection of your most outstanding posts from over the years.

One day I may fashion them into a bible and present it to the world as the first inerrant, contradiction free bible. Of course, I will take the credit claiming that I inspired you. It will be called, 'Gladiator la Biblia.'

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On becoming atheist - the tug of war

by Nickolas in

perhaps, if you are a theist, you might not want to read this.

if you are nevertheless curious about how an atheist thinks, then please read on.. i don't think there are any active members of this board who have been atheists all their lives (are there?).

i think virtually all of us transitioned into non-belief from a religious beginning.

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Nickolas Howdya get on with the dental surgery this morning?

Save some of that Islay single malt for me - I'm tired of drinking lions blood.

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On becoming atheist - the tug of war

by Nickolas in

perhaps, if you are a theist, you might not want to read this.

if you are nevertheless curious about how an atheist thinks, then please read on.. i don't think there are any active members of this board who have been atheists all their lives (are there?).

i think virtually all of us transitioned into non-belief from a religious beginning.

THE GLADIATOR

When it comes to evolution we have no need to ‘believe in’ it. We either do or do not accept it as an important part of the process for all life on earth. Some of the vilest people on earth accept evolution and embrace the idea that the survival of the fittest is a good moral code to adopt.

Whether or not we accept evolution at a mental level, at a molecular level we are all part of the evolutionary process anyway; whereas, the gift of eternal life is not on offer to those who merely accept the existence of a god of their choice. Faith and action are required. Faith without works is dead according to the zealous Paul.

To be a believer requires trying to help those who lack faith in their god to gain salvation and living by a set moral code. That is according to the bible which many Christians now dismiss as folklore. Muslims continue to believe the Koran to be inspired and holy.

It is possible to accept evolution but remain free to hold whatever cherished beliefs we wish to. Some Christians manage this amazing conjuring trick, which impresses me greatly.